tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post2616014333315759585..comments2023-09-13T07:03:47.344-07:00Comments on Live From Occupied Palestine: Abbas' road to capitulation: Annapolis and beyondKimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01202280513083661037noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-23017493050604649302007-12-22T11:17:00.000-08:002007-12-22T11:17:00.000-08:00Of course I mean what I say; 100%. If there isn't ...Of course I mean what I say; 100%. If there isn't going to be peace with us then the Philistines have only 2 options; leave or die.<BR/><BR/>It's that simple.<BR/><BR/>As to ethnic cleansing, how odd that there are 1 million Arab citizens of Israel today, but by the same token, any lands that the Arabs grabbed WERE ethnically cleansed of ALL Jews.<BR/><BR/>But then again, look what the Arab Muslims are doing to the Christians EVERYWHERE: Israel is the ONLY country around here where the Christian population is growing.<BR/><BR/>Under Muslim rule, it is shrinking- everywhere.<BR/><BR/>And like I proved to you, under Ottman rule, there WERE pogroms against the Jews- including BEFORE Zionism.<BR/><BR/>Arabs don't like truth because it is so against what you stand for.<BR/><BR/>And again, the Haganah and the Irgun were both establishd AFTER murderous Arabs riots.<BR/><BR/>The Haganah was established AFTER the murderous Arab riots of 1921.<BR/><BR/>The IZL was established AFTER the murderous Arab riots of 1929.<BR/><BR/>Time, justice, and history is on MY side.<BR/><BR/>Allah is on my side.<BR/><BR/>You will die and disappear, and we will continue to live and thrive in OUR land.Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-39909800840826367462007-12-21T10:57:00.000-08:002007-12-21T10:57:00.000-08:00You bring a smile to my face because I know you do...You bring a smile to my face because I know you do not believe what you say. <BR/><BR/>The events you pointed to only highlight what I have been saying, Arabs and Jews lived in harmony until the Zionist attached and made their intentions known of occupying Palestine and ethnically cleansing it of its indigenous population. Nearly Every Arab government that ruled the Fertile Crescent that included Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and North Africa had a Jewish Minister (Wazeer) in it. It is a shame how Zionism destroyed all of that. For example, when the Othman government of Turkey committed their genocide on the Armenians and forced them to exile they were welcomed in all Arab counties. You do know that Armenians are of the Christian faith; they were protected and still have a vibrant presence through out the Middle East. If it was not for the Racism and fascism of Zionism, Jews escaping European anti-semitism would have been welcomed through out the Middle East. Morocco continues to be home to a sizable and active Jewish community. <BR/><BR/>THERE ARE NOT ONE SINGLE HISTORICAL INCIDENT that you or any Zionist can point to of Arab Jewish unrest before of the Racist-Fascist ideology of Zionism. When Zionism’s goals became clear tension and strife started, not before. <BR/><BR/><B>It is as much your land as the loot is a thief’s property. </B><BR/><BR/>Now about the Hagana and Irguan, History is clear about that also. Both Zionist organizations were the first Terrorist Organizations the world has known. The term “Terrorists” was coined by the British authorities in Palestine to describe the acts and actors of the Hagana and Irguan thugs. Go into any library and look at the books about that era, you will see WANTED pictures of Terrosists Manachim Begin and Yatzik Shamir posted.<BR/><BR/>“Time, justice and history” is on you side??? You got to be kidding. Man you are so warped, I feel sorry for you. Honest. I do. <BR/><BR/>Time??? With time, Israel will be either an apartheid state and will follow the example of South Africa. Be assured we will not rest until that happens. <BR/><BR/>Justice??? Tell that to the refugees who been living in camps for the past 60 years. <BR/><BR/>History??? Palestinian (Christian, Muslim, and Jewish) had same history and it is clear. Zionists like to re-write it with their own fantasies and Myths. <B>http://gentilejew.com/myths_4.htm</B>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-46376429749838793162007-12-21T00:22:00.000-08:002007-12-21T00:22:00.000-08:00They lived in harmony until the Zionists attacked....<I>They lived in harmony until the Zionists attacked.</I><BR/><BR/>Lie. They lived with tension and occassional Arab pogroms- like the one in Hebron in 1834, led by Abraim Pasha.<BR/><BR/>In fat, there wasn't even a Jewish defence group set up until the Arabs started with their serious violence:<BR/><BR/><B>After the 1920 Arab riots and 1921 Jaffa riots, the Jewish leadership in Palestine believed that the British (whom the League of Nations had given a mandate over Palestine in 1920) had no desire to confront local Arab gangs over their attacks on Palestinian Jews. Realizing that they could not rely on the British administration for protection from these gangs, the Jewish leadership created the Haganah to protect their farms and Kibbutzim. In addition to guarding Jewish communities, the role of the Haganah was to warn the residents of and repel attacks by Palestinian Arabs...</B><BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah<BR/><BR/>And in 1929, the Jews of Hebron REFUSED to even have the Haganah protect them from the Arabs, insisting that they trusted the A'yan (Arab notables) to protect them.<BR/><BR/>67 Jews were then brutally murdered and hundreds ethnically cleansed.<BR/><BR/><I>I said it before and I say it again, WE AGREE,<BR/><BR/>HELL No peace with Israel<BR/>HELL No recognition of Israel<BR/>HELL No negotiations with Israel</I><BR/><BR/>Fine with me. Time, justice, and history is on MY side. <BR/><BR/>Allah is on my side.<BR/><BR/>You will die and disappear, and we will continue to live and thrive in OUR land.Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-68273698211318405462007-12-19T08:16:00.000-08:002007-12-19T08:16:00.000-08:00It never ceases to amaze me the lies that you come...It never ceases to amaze me the lies that you come up with. When the discussion is not going your way, you resort to lies. Jerusalem has 4 quarters, A Christian, A Muslim, a Jewish, and An Armenian. They lived in harmony until the Zionists attacked. Also the only event in history that you may point to is the Palestinian uprising of 1936, when in response to Zionist Terror through out Palestine the local population of Hebron attacked the Jews of the city. This did happen and only after Zionist Terror attacks. In today’s standards it could be called “Self defense” and in the aftermath of the events of 1948 we know now they where justified. So Fu… off and don’t play the victim here. <BR/><BR/>About the Jews leaving the Arab states, well its well documented by Zionists themselves that they instigated such migration. Here read this:<BR/><BR/><B>How Israel terrorized Iraqi Jews into leaving Iraq!<BR/><BR/>Excerpts from the book by David Hirst: The Gun and the Olive Branch, 1977, Futura Publications, ISBN 0 70888 1401 8 <BR/>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560254831/002-1951824-4126424?v=glance<BR/><BR/>This was the song which the Iraqi Jews used to sing. Nothing the rulers of Israel could do quelled the bitterness which the newcomers nurtured against them.<BR/><BR/>What did you do, Bengurion? <BR/>You smuggled in all of us! <BR/>Because of the past, we waived our citizenship <BR/>And came to Israel. <BR/>Would that we had come riding on a donkey and we <BR/>Hadn't arrived here yet! <BR/>Woe, what a black hour it was! <BR/>To hell with the plane that brought us here![47] </B><BR/><BR/><B>You can also read these quotes from <BR/><BR/>The One-State Solution </B><BR/> The Nation, October 11, 2003<BR/> http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20031103&s=lazare<BR/><BR/><BR/><B> Herzog wrote in the newspaper Ha'aretz in 1999, "The Israelites were never in Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer the land in a military campaign, and did not pass it on to the twelve tribes of Israel. Furthermore, the united monarchy of David and Solomon, which is described by the Bible as a regional power, was at most a small tribal kingdom." The Israelites were merely one indigenous culture among many. The idea that they had some sort of pre-eminent claim to the Holy Land has no basis in historical fact. Zionist archeology thus turns out to subvert Zionism. </B> <BR/><BR/><B>Hertzberg writes, the guest of honor, David Ben-Gurion, arrived and proceeded to throw cold water over the festivities. By this point in his early 80s and living in retirement on a desert kibbutz, Ben-Gurion demanded that the speaker (who happened to be Hertzberg) cut short his remarks so he could take the podium. When he did, Ben-Gurion sternly told the party faithful that Israel was overextended, that it had bitten off more than it could chew and that it should return nearly all the conquered territory immediately. "The recent conquests were evoking dreams of grandeur that might be realized if the messiah were indeed about to appear," Hertzberg writes, summing up the ex-PM's remarks. Hertzberg wishes Israel had heeded Ben-Gurion's warning at the time. Thirty-six years later, Israel find itself saddled with a captive population it cannot control,</B><BR/><BR/>The difference between the Jews that left Arab countries and Palestinian refugees is Jews can go back and in some instances did go back, Also Jewish property in Iraq is still administered to by Jewish Aukaf, or Jewish Holding in Iraq. Jews who left Arab countries sold their property and left on their own. That can be easily proven. But the Palestinian property was outright stolen and the refugees are administered by the United Nations. <BR/><BR/>Come on now stop this <BR/><BR/>A. No peace with Israel<BR/>B. No recognition of Israel<BR/>C. No negotiations with Israel<BR/><BR/>I said it before and I say it again, WE AGREE,<BR/><BR/>HELL No peace with Israel<BR/>HELL No recognition of Israel<BR/>HELL No negotiations with Israel<BR/><BR/><B>Just read what Ben-Gurion and Arthur Hertzberg new when they went to their graves. Israel will be no more.</B>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-39768679492192483842007-12-19T01:37:00.000-08:002007-12-19T01:37:00.000-08:00Of course you don't "get it".Arabs DID ethnically ...Of course you don't "get it".<BR/><BR/>Arabs DID ethnically cleanse the ancient Jewish community of Hebron- every last Jew.<BR/><BR/>Arabs DID ethnically cleanse the ancient Jewish community of Jerusalem's Old City- every last Jew.<BR/><BR/>And everywhere else in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza.<BR/><BR/>They also forced Jews to flee from throughout the Arab world- and the Arabs will have to compensate us for that.<BR/><BR/>We are righting your wrong by returning to OUR land, and you Arabs will just have to deal with that.<BR/><BR/>There will never be a Philistine state here in OUR land.<BR/><BR/>They would have had a state in 1937 with the Peel Plan, but they violently rejected it.<BR/><BR/>They would have had a state in 1948 with UN 181, but they violently rejected it (and actually claimed that the UN had no such mandate!).<BR/><BR/>They could have had a state in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza from 1948-1967 without any Jews- because the Arabs had ethnically cleansed every last one; but they violently rejected it. In fact, that's exactly when they established Fatah (1959) and thre PLO (1964).<BR/><BR/>They could have had a state after 1967, but instead, the entire Arab world issued the Khartoum Resolutions:<BR/><BR/>A. No peace with Israel<BR/>B. No recognition of Israel<BR/>C. No negotiations with Israel<BR/><BR/>They would have had a state in 2000 with the Oslo Accords, but they violently rejected it- as always.<BR/><BR/>No more. They won't have a state here, and if they don't stop their violence, they won't even exist here anymore. They will have to go to their own land; Jordan.<BR/><BR/>And you can take that to the bank- the EAST Bank.Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-80701769311838434692007-12-18T11:22:00.000-08:002007-12-18T11:22:00.000-08:00These are the generations that was supposed to for...<B>These are the generations that was supposed to forget according to Ben-Gurion. Zionists don't ever dream that you will ever hold on to our homeland. </B><BR/><BR/><EM>Support The Right of Palestinians To Return Home To A Free Palestine!<BR/><BR/>In May of 1948, with the support of the governments of Britain, other European powers and the United States, Zionists launched an attack on Palestine. They occupied our land and forcibly expelled three quarters of a million of our people. This continues to be the great catastrophe, the Nakba, which we, as Palestinians with our supporters have been struggling to overcome since that time.<BR/><BR/>This coming year, the 6th Annual International Al-Awda Convention will commemorate this devastating event and will re-affirm our commitment to the ongoing struggle for the right of Palestinians to return to their homes and land. The convention, which is already expected to draw large participation with several outstanding speakers, panels and cultural events to be announced later, will take place on the week-end of May 16-18, 2008 in Anaheim California on the 60th year of the Nakba. We are asking our members and supporters to help us raise the funds needed to make our work this coming year more effective, and to tell the world that our struggle is far from over.<BR/><BR/> · With our year-long program of educational events commemorating the Nakba, and leading up to the annual convention, now only 5 months away,<BR/> · With the establishment of the Palestine Library and Palestine Media Center at the Al-Awda Center in Carlsbad California together with other developing programs,<BR/> · With the refugee support work for our people stranded on the borders of Iraq, the Gaza Strip and family scholarship and healthcare programs in Deheisha refugee camp,<BR/> · And as we gear up to start producing and widely distributing to our friends and supporters a print form of our newsletter, Until Return,<BR/><BR/>We urge you to make a contribution to Al-Awda. You can do so in several ways:<BR/><BR/> · By shopping for a donation at http://al-awdacal.org/shop.html ; We have an extraordinary selection of educational materials on the Palestinian struggle, history and culture.</EM><BR/><BR/><B>http://al-awdacal.org/ </B>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-57180317374989206852007-12-18T08:51:00.000-08:002007-12-18T08:51:00.000-08:00I don’t get your quote about the Arabs, Arabs did ...I don’t get your quote about the Arabs, Arabs did not drive the Jews out of their homes and colonize their land, Arabs did not force Jews into concentration camps. The Nazis the Zionist, and the Zionist Christians did it, the real anti Semites. You got it all wrong it is the Zionist Terrorists of the Hagana and the Irquan that murdered and killed and stole Palestinian property and even culture. There is no need for the Arabs to cry for mercy. They are more than able to achieve their rights on their own all in due time. <BR/><BR/>My speculation about the city of David is no less completely irrelevant than your suggestion that Zionists have a right to Palestine due to religious and historic ties. Nothing is more irrelevant than that. The Palestinians ARE and will continue to be the rightful descendants of groups such as, Canaanites, Chaldeans, Akkadians, Assyrians, Aramaeans, Ammonites, Hittites, Hebrews, Arabs etc. <BR/><BR/>Your logic assumes (Falsely, and blatantly misleading) that between each historical event, Palestine was totally empty. That never was the reality of Palestine even when Abraham was thinking of leaving Ur. Did all the Canaanites disappear when David Killed Goliath? They disappeared as much as the Palestinian Refugees disappeared when the Zionists stole their land. The inhabitants learn to adapt and with time they too can be called “what ever the flavor of the century is” Canaanites, Chaldeans, Akkadians, Assyrians, Aramaeans, Ammonites, Hittites, Hebrews, Arabs etc <BR/><BR/>And lets assume that the racist Zionists were not bent on ethnic cleansing, the Palestinians with Israeli citizenship in due time will be called Israelis. <BR/><BR/>That’s why most villages (muslim villages) in Palestine are called Dair Yasine, Dair Dibwan, Dair …. Dair in Arabic means Monastery. The inhabitants of these villages and many others know their ancestry is of the Christian Faith. They know that because the Family Burial plots that they been using for centuries, when opened to bury deceased family members, they find crosses and wood and artifacts of Christian burials. <BR/><BR/>Hebron is another example, Every other family has names like Isac, Ishmail, Yacoub, Ibrahim, all Jewish and Christian names. These are family names that been in the family for generations and they want to keep them. So almost all of them now add the name Muhammad to it to make Muhammad Isac, or Muhammad Ishmail, etc. to show their current faith.<BR/><BR/>This my good man is the connection that the Palestinians have with their homeland. And no matter what you or your European forefathers say or do will ever change that.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-73518803644802395412007-12-15T23:17:00.000-08:002007-12-15T23:17:00.000-08:00The Arabs are like the guy who murders his parents...The Arabs are like the guy who murders his parents and then cries fror mercy from the court on account of being an orphan.<BR/><BR/>Your <I>speculation</I> about the City of David is completely irrelevant.<BR/><BR/>1. It's only speculation.<BR/><BR/>2. It has no bearing on anything. My claim to MY Jerusalem has nothoing to do with that.<BR/><BR/>3. It has nothing to do with the modern-day Philistines, who are Johnny-come-latelies. Even under the Ottomans during the 1st census, there were only 5000 Muslims; fewer than the Jews.<BR/><BR/>4. <A HREF="http://www.cityofdavid.org.il/hp_eng.asp" REL="nofollow">THIS</A> is what is relevant.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.cityofdavid.org.il/IrDavidFoundation_Eng.asp" REL="nofollow">AND THIS</A>.Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-7720764572780441532007-12-15T14:05:00.000-08:002007-12-15T14:05:00.000-08:00You are like the biker who after waking up in the ...You are like the biker who after waking up in the hospital from an accident still refused to believe that he was hit by a truck. The Biker was asked how the accident happened, so he says, “I was riding at night and I saw two bikers coming at me in a very tight formation. I wanted to prove to them that I’m a better rider so I aimed for the dark spot in the middle.” Well buddy that was a TRUCK not two Bikes close to gather. <BR/><BR/>So you say the Moshe Dian quote is an Arab fabrication maybe you want to look up this Arab fabrication in Ha'aretz, April 4, 1969 issue. That should settle it. And about these quotes from the travelers in the 1800s, well have you ever driven across the United states? I would say I can describe three quarters of the trip as “desolate and unlovely” well maybe “Unlovely” to Mark Twain but I think you and I can at least agree that it is lovely. So my good man, riding on a horse back in the 1800s through Palestine is hardly surprising that someone may get the sense that it’s empty. But you know it’s not true.<BR/><BR/>You must have immigrated to Palestine recently maybe with Lieberman from Russia. Do yourself a favor and visit some library or do a search on Palestinian History. Educate yourself it’s a shame that a man in this day and age can still insists on being stupid. If you think that Moshe Dian’s quote was a fabrication and not part of your history then it’s a waste of time to have a discussion with you. Know your history first, know where you came from then maybe then you can start learning about the people that you displaced.<BR/><BR/>BUT did you see the rally today in the large concentration camp of GAZA?? It warms my heart. I like your quote,<BR/><BR/><B><BR/>A. No peace with Israel<BR/>B. No recognition of Israel<BR/>C. No negotiations with Israel<BR/></B><BR/><BR/>You can change that to <B>HELL NO</B>, so “Israel” is going to be in Palestine for a hundred years?? Maybe two??.,,, come on the Remains stayed for 1000, the Turks for 400, the invading Israelites for 100. <BR/><BR/><B>Here is a good example for your education you silly man.</B><BR/><BR/><B> New Archaeological Find Could Revolutionize<BR/>Jerusalem History<BR/>JERUSALEM–New archaeological discoveries in the City of David area reveal that Jerusalem, a city revered as holy by Jews, Christians and Muslims, was first a major Canaanite fortress with a highly sophisticated water system at <EM>least 800 years before the biblical King David</EM> made it the capital of ancient Israel. <BR/>Archaeologists say the discovery is likely to revolutionize thinking about the history of Jerusalem, which traditionally was regarded as a minor hilltop outpost bereft of significant fortifications before <EM>David conquered </EM>the city around 1000 B.C. <BR/>It also may disappoint Jewish settlers who are reportedly planning to build a visitor’s center to illustrate the early Jewish history of Jerusalem above the Canaanite archaeological sites now under excavation. Over the past six years, the settlers have moved into homes in the adjacent Arab neighborhood of Silwan, claiming the City of David area is of rich Jewish significance. <BR/>“In effect, they'll have to show tourists the massive Canaanite water works from Jerusalem of that period – at least that’s what came out of the excavations,” Gideon Avny, chief Jerusalem district archaeologist of the Israel Antiquities, said in an interview July 22. </B><BR/>For Full view of the article: http://www.pcusa.org/pcnews/oldnews/1998/98245.htm<BR/><BR/>Hahahahah laughing in your face.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-45175713420673114992007-12-15T10:30:00.000-08:002007-12-15T10:30:00.000-08:00And let's see what those who were here had to say ...And let's see what those who were here had to say (you do know that there were only some 5000 Muslims in Jerusalem at the time of the 1st Ottoman census- right?)<BR/><BR/>"A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds -- a silent mournful expanse.... A desolation.... We never saw a human being on the whole route.... hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."<BR/><BR/>AND<BR/><BR/>"Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies.... Palestine is desolate and unlovely.... It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land." <BR/><BR/>- From Innocents Abroad, by Mark Twain, regarding the Land of Israel when he visited in 1867.<BR/><BR/>"Now the district is quite deserted, and you ride among what seem to be so many petrified waterfalls. We saw no animals moving among the stony brakes; scarcely even a dozen little birds in the whole course of the ride."<BR/><BR/>- William Thackeray in From Jaffa To Jerusalem, 1844<BR/><BR/>"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is that of a body of population." <BR/><BR/>- The British consul in Palestine, James Finn, 1857<BR/><BR/>"Virtually the only local people we encountered were merchantmen with their long camel trains and wild Bedouin tribes that reside in one locality not more than two months."<BR/><BR/>- H. Allen Tupper Jr. writing in the New York Times in 1896, after having “ridden on horseback more than four hundred miles through Palestine and Syria”<BR/><BR/>"We found it inhabited by fellahin who lived in mud hovels and suffered severely from the prevalent malaria.... Large areas...were uncultivated.... The fellahin, if not themselves cattle thieves, were always ready to harbor these and other criminals. The individual plots...changed hands annually. There was little public security, and the fellahin's lot was an alternation of pillage and blackmail by their neighbors, the Bedouin." <BR/><BR/>- Lewis French, the British Director of Development - early 1900's<BR/><BR/>"There are many proofs, such as ancient ruins, broken aqueducts, and remains of old roads, which show that it has not always been so desolate as it seems now. In the portion of the plain between Mount Carmel and Jaffa one sees but rarely a village or other sights of human life. There are some rude mills here that are turned by the stream. A ride of half an hour more brought us to the ruins of the ancient city of Cזsarea, once a city of two hundred thousand inhabitants, and the Roman capital of Palestine, but now entirely deserted.<BR/><BR/>As the sun was setting we gazed upon the desolate harbor, once filled with ships, and looked over the sea in vain for a single sail. In this once crowded mart, filled with the din of traffic, there was the silence of the desert. After our dinner we gathered in our tent as usual to talk over the incidents of the day, or the history of the locality. Yet it was sad, as I laid upon my couch at night, to listen to the moaning of the waves and to think of the desolation around us."<BR/><BR/>-B. W. Johnson, in Young Folks in Bible Lands: Chapter IV, 1892.<BR/><BR/>Want more?Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-76335205935332255212007-12-15T10:28:00.000-08:002007-12-15T10:28:00.000-08:00As to Dayan's "quote", it's obviously just another...As to Dayan's "quote", it's obviously just another Arrab fabrication- a lie. How do we know? Simple:<BR/><BR/>* Nahlal: Established in 1921<BR/><BR/>* Kibbutz Gvat: Established in 1926<BR/><BR/>* Kibbutz Sarid: Established in 1926<BR/><BR/>* Kfar Yehoshua: Established in 1927<BR/><BR/>>נ<* The state of Israel: Re-established in 1948>.נ<<BR/><BR/>Unless you now claim that Great Britain, who ruled over the land of Israel then, was somehow involved.<BR/><BR/>If you claim that, then prove it.Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-37968424957187192642007-12-15T10:23:00.000-08:002007-12-15T10:23:00.000-08:00Farah is obviously correct:They would have had a s...Farah is obviously correct:<BR/><BR/>They would have had a state in 1937 with the Peel Plan, but they violently rejected it.<BR/><BR/>They would have had a state in 1948 with UN 181, but they violently rejected it (and actually claimed that the UN had no such mandate!).<BR/><BR/>They could have had a state in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza from 1948-1967 without any Jews- because the Arabs had ethnically cleansed every last one; but they violently rejected it. In fact, that's exactly when they established Fatah (1959) and thre PLO (1964).<BR/><BR/>They could have had a state after 1967, but instead, the entire Arab world issued the Khartoum Resolutions:<BR/><BR/>A. No peace with Israel<BR/>B. No recognition of Israel<BR/>C. No negotiations with Israel<BR/><BR/>They would have had a state in 2000 with the Oslo Accords, but they violently rejected it- as always.<BR/><BR/>No more. They won't have a state here, and if they don't stop their violence, they won't even exist here anymore. They will have to go to their own land; Jordan.<BR/><BR/>And you can take that to the bank- the EAST Bank.Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-67912341896882851632007-12-13T07:33:00.000-08:002007-12-13T07:33:00.000-08:00Joseph Farah, can hardly be called an expert, he r...Joseph Farah, can hardly be called an expert, he runs an internet tabloid (WorldNet Daily) geared to generate money from Christian Zionists and Fundamentalists; His web site is nothing more than a collection of links to neoconservative Muslim hate sites and Zionist publications. Its also funny how Winston Churchill a known anti-Semite is quoted. Winston Churchill supported the Zionists in their colonization of Palestine because he wanted the Jews out of England and Europe. But of course, Zionists would team with anyone to get their goals. That’s why during the dark days of Nazi rule in Germany the only flags that were allowed to fly over Germany were the Nazi Swastika and the Zionist Flag. (5. German Zionism Offers to Collaborate with Nazism http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch05.htm) Documented historical Facts Do yourself a favor and check the sources.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Now as far as Palestine ever being vacant as the Zionists claim, You got to be kidding. Palestine is the cross roads between Asia, Africa, and Europe, it was never VACANT. History is clear, the Canaanites, Chaldeans, Akkadians, Assyrians, Aramaeans, Ammorites, Hittites, Arabs, lived in Palestine. Even some remnants of the crusaders are now part of this Palestinian mosaic. Palestinians of the Jewish Faith were never a majority in Palestine. During the time of Jesus, Jews were a minority in Palestine. Jesus spoke Aramaic NOT Hebrew. The spoken language in Palestine under Roman rule was Aramaic, NOT Hebrew indicating that Jews were not the majority even then and that Roman rule went on for a thousand years.<BR/><BR/>May be you should read Moshe Dian’s quote below. I know he was an authority on Zionist matters.<BR/>"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exists, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushu'a in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab Population." Moshe Dayan in an Address to the Technion, Haifa (as quoted in Ha'aretz, April 4, 1969)<BR/><BR/>The claim that Palestine was an underdeveloped and vacant is a false claim, as recent archaeological digs have provided evidence that Jerusalem was a big and fortified city already in 1800 BCE...Findings show that the sophisticated water system heretofore attributed to the conquering Hebrews pre-dated them by eight centuries and was even more sophisticated than imagined...Dr. Ronny Reich, who directed the excavation along with Eli Shuikrun, said the entire system was built as a single complex by Canaanites in the Middle Bronze Period, around 1800 BCE." The Jewish Bulletin, July 31st, 1998.<BR/>Conclusion: Palestine, like the rest of Syria has never been "vacant", in fact Syria houses the most number of continuously occupied cities!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-80981223249612857652007-12-13T07:28:00.000-08:002007-12-13T07:28:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-20080475449630720032007-12-10T10:24:00.000-08:002007-12-10T10:24:00.000-08:00Today's Palestinians are immigrants from many nati...Today's Palestinians are immigrants from many nations: "Balkans, Greeks, Syrians, Latins, Egyptians, Turks, Armenians, Italians, Persians, Kurds, Germans, Afghans, Circassians, Bosnians, Sudaneese, Samaritans, Algerians, Motawila, Tartars, Hungarians, Scots, Navarese, Bretons, English, Franks, Ruthenians, Bohemians, Bulgarians, Georgians, Syrians, Persian Nestorians, Indians, Copts, Maronites, and many others." <BR/> (DeHass, History, p. 258. John of Wurzburg list from Reinhold Rohricht edition, pp. 41, 69). <BR/><BR/>There are villages populated wholly by settlers from other portions of the Turkish Empire in the 19th century. There are villages of Bosnians, Circassians, and Egyptians. <BR/>-Parkes, James William, History of the Peoples of Palestine, Hammondsworth, Great Britain, 1970, p. 212. <BR/><BR/>There are very large contingents from the Mediterranean countries, especially Armenia, Greece, and Italy, Turkomen settlers, a fairly large Afghan colony, Motawila, immigrants from Persia, tribes of Kurds, a Bosnian colony, Circassian settlements, a large Algerian element, Sudanese... <BR/>-Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1911 ed. <BR/><BR/>[Ibrahim Pasha, the 1831 Egyptian conquerer of Palestine] "left behind him permanent colonies of Egyptians at Besian, Nablus, Irbid, Acre, and Jaffa. Into Jaffa alone, "at least 2,000 people have been imported."<BR/>-Ernst Frankenstein, Justice For My People, London, Nicholson and Watson, 1943, p. 127. <BR/><BR/>In 1860, entire Algerian tribes immigrated en masse to Safed. The Muslims of Safed, are "mostly descended from these Moorish settlers and from Kurds that came earlier to the city."<BR/>-De Haas, Jacob, History of Palestine, The Last Two Thousand Years, New York, 1934, p. 425. <BR/><BR/>"I learn of the arrival of about 6,000 of the Beni Sukhr Arabs at Tiberias who are very seldom seen this side of the Jordan." <BR/>-British Consul James Finn in apers Relating to the Distubances in Syria, no. 2, June 1860, p. 35. <BR/><BR/>After 1870, "the [Turkish] forward policy included...the planting of Circassian colonies in the country." <BR/>-Smith, CG in Studies on Palestine During the Ottoman Period, Jerusalem, 1975, p. 93. <BR/><BR/>"The Arabs would have sat in the dark forever had not the Zionist engineers harnessed the Jordan river for electrification. Now they swarm into Palestine in seeking the light."<BR/>- Winston Churchill, 1922 "A Peace to End All Peace"<BR/><BR/>"This illegal [Arab] immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria, and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery." <BR/>-Palestine Royal Commission Report, London: 1937 <BR/><BR/>"So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."<BR/>-Winston Churchill, 1939. <BR/><BR/>This is why such last names as al-Masri (the Egyptian,), al-Djazair (the Algerian), el-Mughrabi (the Moroccan), al-Yamani (the Yemenite) and even al-Afghani are so common among those claiming to be "Palestinians."<BR/><BR/>"There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass. <BR/><BR/>But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough."<BR/><BR/>Joseph Farah, Arab-American journalist, editor and CEO of WorldNet DailyYishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-90884316316102467392007-12-10T10:22:00.000-08:002007-12-10T10:22:00.000-08:00You can also see these:The original article in The...You can also see these:<BR/><BR/>The original article in <A HREF="http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/journal/issues/v69n5/013033/013033.html" REL="nofollow">The American Journal of Human Genetics</A><BR/><BR/>and<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=18733" REL="nofollow">"Jewish And Middle Eastern Non-Jewish Populations Share A Common Pool Of Y-Chromosome Biallelic Haplotypes"</A><BR/><BR/>...The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora....<BR/><BR/><B>Evidence for Common Jewish Origins.</B><BR/><BR/>...Several lines of evidence support the hypothesis that Diaspora Jews from Europe, Northwest Africa, and the Near East resemble each other more closely than they resemble their non-Jewish neighbors.... First, six of the seven Jewish populations analyzed here formed a relatively tight cluster in the MDS analysis...<BR/><BR/>Second, despite their high degree of geographic dispersion, Jewish populations from Europe, North Africa, and the Near East were less diverged genetically from each other than any other group of populations in this study (Table 2). The statistically significant correlation between genetic and geographic distances in our non-Jewish populations from Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa is suggestive of spatial differentiation, whereas the lack of such a correlation for Jewish populations is more compatible with a model of recent dispersal and subsequent isolation during and after the Diaspora...<BR/><BR/>In summary, the combined results suggest that a major portion of NRY biallelic diversity present in most of the contemporary Jewish communities surveyed here traces to a common Middle Eastern source population several thousand years ago. The implication is that this source population included a large number of distinct paternal and maternal lineages, reflecting genetic variation established in the Middle East at that time. In turn, this source diversity has been maintained within Jewish communities, despite numerous migrations during the Diaspora and long-term residence as isolated subpopulations in numerous geographic locations outside of the Middle East.Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-71475625078767990502007-12-10T10:17:00.000-08:002007-12-10T10:17:00.000-08:00Of course there's no such thing as "Palestine". It...Of course there's no such thing as "Palestine". It's an objective fact.<BR/><BR/>As to the Jews, as we already know, you are totally ignorant. First of all, a convert, one who joins the nation of Israel, is a Jew just like anyone else. <BR/><BR/>In fact, by YOUR messed-up logic, King David himself wouldn't be considered a Jew (or the messiah, who will come from him!), because his ancestor was Ruth the Moabite.<BR/><BR/>Nothwithstanding that silliness on your part, as we ALL know from genetics studies, Ashkenazim aren't Khazars. They are genetically almost the same as Sepharadim:<BR/><BR/><B><A HREF="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/574370/posts" REL="nofollow">"Genetic Evidence Links Jews To Their Ancient Tribe"</A><BR/><BR/>Genetic evidence continues to provide additional proof to the claims that the Jewish people are descended from a common ancient Israelite father: Despite being separated for over 1,000 years, Sephardi Jews of North African origin are genetically indistinguishable from their brethren from Iraq, according to The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. <BR/><BR/>They also proved that Sephardi Jews are very close genetically to the Jews of Kurdistan, and <I>only slight differences exist between these two groups and Ashkenazi Jews from Europe.</I><BR/><BR/>These conclusions are reached in an article published recently in the American Journal of Human Genetics and written by Prof. Ariella Oppenheim of the Hebrew University (HU) and Hadassah-University Hospital in Ein Kerem. <BR/><BR/>Others involved are German doctoral student Almut Nebel, Dr. Marina Faerman of HU, Dr. Dvora Filon of Hadassah-University Hospital, and other colleagues from Germany and India. <BR/><BR/>The researchers conducted blood tests of Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Kurdish Jews and examined their Y chromosomes, which are carried only by males. They then compared them with those of various Arab groups - Palestinians, Beduins, Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese - as well as to non-Arab populations from Transcaucasia - Turks, Armenians and Moslem Kurds. <BR/><BR/>The study is based on 526 Y chromosomes typed by the Israeli team and additional data on 1,321 individuals from 12 populations. The typing of the Jewish groups was performed at the National Genome Center at HU's Silberman Institute of Life Sciences. <BR/><BR/>The Fertile Crescent of the Middle East was one of the few centers in which the transition from hunting-gathering to permanent settlement and agriculture took place. Genetic studies suggest that migrating Neolithic farmers dispersed their technological innovations and domesticated animals from the Middle East towards Europe, North Africa and Southwest Asia. <BR/><BR/>Studies of Y chromosomes have become powerful tools for the investigation of the genetic history of males, since these chromosomes are transmitted from fathers to sons. <BR/><BR/>Surprisingly, the study shows a closer genetic affinity by Jews to the non-Jewish, non-Arab populations in the northern part of the Middle East than to Arabs. These findings are consistent with known cultural links that existed among populations in the Fertile Crescent in early history, and indicate that the Jews are direct descendants of the early Middle Eastern core populations, which later divided into distinct ethnic groups speaking different languages. <BR/><BR/>Previous investigations by the HU researchers suggested a common origin for Jewish and non-Jewish populations living in the Middle East. The current study refines and delineates that connection. <BR/><BR/>It is believed that the majority of today's Jews - not including converts and non-Jews with whom Jews intermarried - descended from the ancient Israelis that lived in the historic Land of Israel until the destruction of the Second Temple and their dispersal into the Diaspora. <BR/><BR/>The researchers say that a genetic analysis of the chromosomes of Jews from various countries show that there was practically no genetic intermixing between them and the host populations among which they were scattered during their dispersion - whether in Eastern Europe, Spain, Portugal or North Africa. <BR/><BR/>A particularly intriguing case illustrating this is that of the Kurdish Jews, said to be the descendants of the Ten Tribes of Israel who were exiled in 723 BCE. to the area known today as Kurdistan, located in Northern Iraq, Iran and Eastern Turkey. They continued to live there as a separate entity until their immigration to Israel in the 1950s. The Kurdish Jews of today show a much greater affinity to their fellow Jews elsewhere than to the Kurdish Moslems.</B>Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-24606661122077757012007-12-10T07:29:00.000-08:002007-12-10T07:29:00.000-08:00GentileJews MythsGentileJews through their colonie...<B>GentileJews Myths<BR/><BR/>GentileJews through their colonies, political slaves and Zionist Christians have been to fabricate a series of myths to justify the creation of the Zionist Enclave and the ethnic cleansing of more than 750,000 people from the homes. Homes which they have occupied for centuries. These Myths are so obvious in their deceptions and manipulation, aiming to "fool" people around the world to pr-cover the terror and murders they committed in Palestine and beyond.</B><BR/><BR/><B>Who are the Gentile Jews?<BR/>Using historical facts, accepted definitions and historical principals we shall endeavor to proof beyond any doubt that most of the Ashkenazi Jews are not Hebrews / Israelites and they are from Khazari background and therefore are not real Hebrews and more importantly they are not genuine Semitic.<BR/>This fact is vital to understanding the Middle East conflict. This Palestinian / Zionist conflict is based on cultural and not religious differences. The Gentile Jews continuous illegal immigration to Palestine in large numbers, introduced an alien culture to that region, a Khazari / Eastern European culture, which was rejected by almost all western civilizations throughout history. This group of Eastern European were “exported” to a new destination called Palestine.<BR/>We have purposely chosen to use the CORRECT terms to describe the region and its ethnic communities. Communities which include the most recent invaders ... The GENTILE JEWS.</B><BR/><BR/><B>Gentile Jews Myths<BR/>Although history has seen many tyrants, invaders and occupiers. The Gentile Jews invasion and occupation of Palestine is unparalleled in history.<BR/>Gentile Jews have relied on epics which may or may not have happened thousands of years ago as their ONLY credential to invade Palestine. These episodes whether they were true or not, are irrelevant. Even if we to accept the Gentile Jews arguments then:<BR/><BR/>Turkey can claim Palestine.<BR/>England can claim Palestine.<BR/>Italy can claim Palestine.<BR/>Arabs can claim Palestine.<BR/>Greece can claim Palestine.<BR/>Assyrians can claim Palestine<BR/>Etc...............<BR/>That is a mayhem!<BR/>The only people who can claim Palestine are its indigenous people, people who, lived there for thousands of years. People who are the decedents of groups such as, Canaanites, Chaldeans, Akkadians, Assyrians, Aramaeans, Ammonites, Hittites, Arabs etc. who collectively lived in a homogeneous society called Palestine. Some Palestinians adopted Judaism, other adopted Christianity, Islam etc. but the fact remains that religions were a part of the culture and not the culture itself.<BR/>Gentile Jews and their supporters have worked for decades to claim “ownership” of the land. Their claim was based on several baseless hypothesises.</B><BR/><BR/>http://gentilejew.com/myths_4.htm<BR/><BR/><EM>Myth One: God granted Palestine to the Jews</EM><BR/> <BR/><B>Religions, in general, were created by social reformers during a special period for specific purpose(s). Each religion claims that its teachings are the “real” or “right” and every other religious teaching are “false”. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. had their corresponding Gods and Chosen Peoples. <BR/>God has never been and can not ever be a “land lord”, a “real estate” agent, or a “property developer” etc. This earthly activity is performed by merchants and businessmen!. God loves all people and doesn’t have real estate, county or national boundaries. Otherwise, Muslims can claim Spain, Christians claim Rome, and Buddhists claim India and Pakistan etc. The Jewish God can not have a real estate deed which is passable to future generations that choose to follow His teachings. <BR/>Further, each God endeavours to reward or punish his own followers. The followers of God “A” (for example) are obliged to follow the teachings of God “A”, the followers of Gods "B", "C", "D" etc follow the teachings of their corresponding Gods. One God's promises to His people are not obligatory to other Gods' followers!<BR/>Since the three main monotheistic religions claim the same "Holy Land". Three have "proofs", "verses", "doctrines" etc to claim ownership, then it is logical to ignore all three claims and award the land to its people. Like France to the French, England to the English, China to the Chinese and Palestine for the Palestinians. <BR/>Gentile Jews have always tried to confuse spiritual promise with a materialistic and racist objective.<BR/>The following statements enforce this concept:<BR/>"Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader, I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, [our] God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs, We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we came here and stole their country. Why should they accept that?" David Ben-Gurion, quoted in "The Jewish Paradox" by Nathan Goldman, former president of the World Jewish Congress.<BR/>"Zionism's 'historical right' to Palestine was neither historical nor a right. It was not historical inasmuch as it voided the two millennia of non-Jewish settlement in Palestine and the two millennia of Jewish settlement outside it. It was not a right, except in the Romantic 'mysticism' of 'blood and soil' and the Romantic 'cult' of 'death, heroes and graves'... "The claim of Jewish 'homelessness is founded on a cluster of assumptions that both negates the liberal idea of citizenship and duplicates the anti-Semitic one that the state belongs to the majority ethnic nation. In a word, the Zionist case for a Jewish state is as valid as the anti-Semitic case for an ethnic state that marginalizes Jews." Professor Norman Finkelstein, "Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict,"</B><BR/><EM>Conclusion: God(s) are not in the business of real estate.</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>Myth Two: Religion is a Race</EM><BR/> <BR/><B>Religion can not be a race. Race has specific ingredients such as colour, shape and other distinguish cultural and historical characteristics. All religious teachings have attempted to break the concept of race and promote the concept of humanity. <BR/>To look at this point further let us take an example. Spain a prosperous country and is a vital part of the European Community. What if Muslims, say, from more than 82 countries, decided to immigrate illegally to Spain? Supported by USA, say, they push the local inhabitants toward Francs, Portugal and other countries. Claiming that Muslims were there once!<BR/>Naturally this will not be acceptable to any nation or individual. The right of land or country is not defined by a God or religions rather such right belongs to the continuous existence inhabitations of Spain.<BR/>This scenario is not acceptable in the case of Spain, neither it should be acceptable in the case of Palestine.<BR/>The followers of the Jewish faith like the followers of Islamic, Christians and any other faith have an equal right to Palestine. In fact Palestine has had, for thousands of years, various ethnic or tribal groups of people who over the centuries assimilated into the Palestinian Society. <BR/>Groups such as, Canaanites, Chaldeans, Akkadians, Assyrians, Aramaeans, Ammorites, Hittites, Arabs etc. collectively lived in a homogeneous society called Palestine. Some of them adopted Judaism, other adopted Christianity, Islam etc. but the fact remains that religions were a part of the culture and not the culture itself.<BR/> <BR/>In a book entitled "Races in Europe", the author, William Z. Ripley, states under ethnology:<BR/>"The findings of physical anthropology show that contrary to all popular view, there is no "Jewish" race. "Our conclusion then is final. It is paradoxical yet true, we affirm. The Jews are not a race, but only a people after all."<BR/>Perhaps it can be understood why this is. The World Book Encyclopedia states:<BR/>"The Jews were once a sub-type of the Mediterranean race, but they have mixed with other peoples until the name Jew has lost all racial meaning."</B><BR/> <BR/><EM>Conclusion: Nationhood contains religions followed by its inhabitants, and no one religion can claim nationhood.</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>Myth Three: All “Jews” are Semitic</EM><BR/> <BR/><B>This hypothesis is partially true. First let us established who is a Semite and who is not.<BR/>Semites are the direct descendent of Abraham and his sons. Arabs are the senior members of the Semitic tribe as they were the sons and daughters of Ishmael. Hebrews are also Semitic as they were the decedents of Isaac. The Arabs and Hebrews are blood brothers and are both Semitic.<BR/>By definition, Hebrews “inherent” their Semitic title through birth and not through adoption or conversion. In other words you have to be born into the Jewish faith.<BR/>Over 90% of the illegal occupants of “Zionist Enclave” are of Khazari origin (Gentile Jews). These East Europeans who converted to Judaism were not descendent of Abraham are therefore are not Semitic, they are gentile. Hence, the term we use to describe them “Gentile Jews”.<BR/>Since the majority of people in modern Palestine and the world who call themselves "Jews" are descendants from a "Turko-Mongolian tribal people" known as Khazars, and have "little or no trace of Semitic blood in them," the word anti-Semitic, as applied to Jews, is meaningless. The Gentile Jews are genetically more related to Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses etc.</B><BR/><EM>Conclusion: Ironically, the term anti-Semitic, so often used to label critics of Israel, is a misnomer; European Jews (Gentile Jews) are the true anti-Semites in Zionist Enclave.</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>Myth Four: Palestine was an empty land</EM><BR/><B>Like all Syria, Palestine had never been “land without people”. On the contrary it has always been the busiest pieces of land on earth.<BR/>'There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed.' (Golda Meir Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969)<BR/> We may look at this above myth by reading the following quotes:<BR/>"We came to this country which was already populated by Arabs, and we are establishing a Hebrew, that is a Jewish, state here...Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages...There is not a single community in the country that did not have a former Arab population." Israeli leader, Moshe Dayan, quoted in Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi's "Original Sins."<BR/>And…<BR/>"Britain's high commissioner for Palestine, John Chancellor, recommended total suspension of Jewish immigration and land purchase to protect Arab agriculture. He said 'all cultivable land was occupied; there is no cultivable land now in possession of the indigenous population could be sold to Jews without creating a class of landless Arab cultivators'...The Colonial Office rejected the recommendation." John Quigley, "Palestine and Israel: A Challenge to Justice."<BR/>More …<BR/>"One can imagine an argument for the right of a persecuted minority to find refuge in another country able to accommodate it; one is hard-pressed, however, to imagine an argument for the right of a peaceful minority to politically and perhaps physically displace the indigenous population of another country. Yet...the latter was the actual intention of the Zionist movement." Norman Finkelstein, "Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict."<BR/>And More…<BR/>"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exists, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushu'a in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab Population." Moshe Dayan in an Address to the Technion, Haifa (as quoted in Ha'aretz, April 4, 1969) <BR/>The claim that Palestine was an underdeveloped and vacant is a false claim, as recent archaeological digs have provided evidence that Jerusalem was a big and fortified city already in 1800 BCE...Findings show that the sophisticated water system heretofore attributed to the conquering Hebrews pre-dated them by eight centuries and was even more sophisticated than imagined...Dr. Ronny Reich, who directed the excavation along with Eli Shuikrun, said the entire system was built as a single complex by Canaanites in the Middle Bronze Period, around 1800 BCE." The Jewish Bulletin, July 31st, 1998.</B><BR/> <EM> Conclusion: Palestine, like the rest of Syria has never been "vacant", in fact Syria houses the most number of continuously occupied cities!</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>Gentile Jews Bought the Land</EM><BR/><B>In 1858, while Palestine and the rest of Syria were under the Turkish occupation, Istanbul issued a land code referred to as “The Ottoman Land Code”. That was made it compulsory for the land “owners” to register their holdings in their own names, most of which had never previously been registered and which had formerly been treated according to traditional forms of land tenure.<BR/>Farmers assumed that their fields were own by them, as their fathers and grandfathers had the land before them. The new law meant that for the first time a peasant could be deprived not of title to his land, which he had rarely held, or even seen, before, but rather of the right to live on it, cultivates it and pass it on to his heirs, which had formerly been inalienable... <BR/>Under the provisions of the 1858 law, communal rights of tenure were often ignored...Instead, members of the upper classes, adept at manipulating or circumventing the legal process, registered large areas of land as theirs... <BR/>The peasants naturally considered the land to be theirs, and often discovered that they had ceased to be the legal owners only when the land was sold, by an absentee landlord, to the new Gentile Jews settlers. <BR/>Not only was the land being purchased; its Arab cultivators were being dispossessed and replaced by foreigners who had overt political objectives in Palestine. <BR/>The Gentile Jews and the “landlords” would have made most of the so called sales in Turkey and Europe, without taking any consideration of the land farmers and their families who had been there for centuries. In fact most of the “landlords” had never seen the land in Palestine, as they were gifted the land from the Turkish authorities. <BR/>Even taking the 1858 code into consideration, the unjust acquisition of the Palestinian land, the Gentile Jews could only claim “ownership” to about 6% of Palestine in 1948, at the moment that Zionist Enclave was declared as a state! <BR/>Thus when the partition plan was announced in 1947 it included land held illegally by Jews, which was incorporated as a fait accompli inside the borders of the Zionist Enclave. And after Zionist Enclave announced its statehood, an impressive series of laws legally assimilated huge tracts of Arab land (whose proprietors had become refugees, and were pronounced 'absentee landlords' in order to expropriate their lands and prevent their return under any circumstances)." Edward Said, "The Question of Palestine."</B><BR/> <BR/><EM>Conclusion: In 1948, the Gentile Jews were unable to “own” more than 6% of Palestine!</EM>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-49292531727780932502007-12-10T06:54:00.000-08:002007-12-10T06:54:00.000-08:00You don't really believe that, DO YOU? You poor fo...You don't really believe that, DO YOU? You poor fool, don't you know that you can not block out the SUN with your palm? But if that’s the only way you can live with your hallucination then its OK I’m willing to entertain a diseased mind. Even if there never were such a thing as Palestine, YOU can feel it in your Zionist (Kazak) bones that Palestine is the future.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-6128368519869458562007-12-09T10:07:00.000-08:002007-12-09T10:07:00.000-08:00PS There's no such thing as "Palestine"- and there...PS There's no such thing as "Palestine"- and there never will be.Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-66564133208842582772007-12-09T10:06:00.000-08:002007-12-09T10:06:00.000-08:00Actually, because of that, the UK is going to end ...Actually, because of that, the UK is going to end up changing their law. They don't want jihadis trying to use civilized society's law against the civilized world and civilized people:<BR/><BR/><B>A Home Office spokeswoman said that Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, was considering amending the legislation to stop private prosecutors putting forward arrest warrants.<BR/><BR/>“The current position is that there is extra territorial jurisdiction to prosecute war crimes and, although a prosecution cannot proceed without the consent of the Attorney General, section 25(2) of the Prosecution of Offences Act 1985 provides that this requirement will not prevent the issue or execution of an arrest warrant or an arrest without a warrant," she said.<BR/><BR/>"This allows the police to act quickly to arrest suspects but also allows a private prosecutor to apply for a warrant if he or she can produce evidence to support an allegation. Procedures already in place provide for the courts to consider any application on its merits.<BR/><BR/>“The Home Secretary is currently considering amendments to the legislation regarding applications for arrest warrants by private prosecutors in relation to offences which require the consent of the Attorney General to prosecute.” </B>Yishai Kohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063856362086673477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-43244592441100340502007-12-08T12:43:00.000-08:002007-12-08T12:43:00.000-08:00Israeli Public Security Minister fears arrest in B...<EM>Israeli Public Security Minister fears arrest in Britain <BR/>Posted: 06-12-2007 , 14:28 GMT<BR/>"Minister Dichter has cancelled this trip following threats of him being arrested in Great Britain. according to AFP.<BR/>As head of Israel's Shin Beth internal intelligence agency, Dichter was involved in the 2002 Israeli attack in Gaza in which an Israeli warplane dropped a one-ton bomb on a the house killing 15 civilians, many of them children.</EM><BR/><BR/><B>There will come a day when, all Zionist criminals will be hiding like rats. Zionists know this, that’s why they are lashing out with all their might while they can.</B><BR/><BR/><B>Do and say what you will for you are as sure as I am that Israel has no future (whats a 100 years in the age of country?) in Palestine. </B>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-52734027837768041812007-12-07T07:49:00.000-08:002007-12-07T07:49:00.000-08:00Marie,I’m glad that from all the posts that I put ...Marie,<BR/><BR/>I’m glad that from all the posts that I put up you managed to find your excuse (two words) to try to discredit my posts and your “Brilliant insight” to how I feel. The interchangeability of “Jew” and “Zionist” is the domain of the Zionists. It is a Zionist invention. I do not believe that because there are a lot more Christian Zionists in this world than there are Jewish Zionists. But all I can say to you is Fu** off because it is you who is making the association. Not me.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-75701027637268234272007-12-07T07:47:00.000-08:002007-12-07T07:47:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10651677853446250698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3623316088497384976.post-41822754720842840292007-12-03T17:17:00.000-08:002007-12-03T17:17:00.000-08:00Aranki,How disgusting to say that it's time to hit...Aranki,<BR/><BR/>How disgusting to say that it's time to hit Zionists where it hurts, their "pocket books".<BR/><BR/>If this isn't harking back to an age-old Nazi canard about Jews and money, I don't know what it.<BR/><BR/>How easily "Jew" and "Zionist" are interchangeable, aren't they? Lucky for you.<BR/><BR/>But resorting to bigoted, racist stereotypes of Jews and money is appaling.<BR/><BR/>There goes your moral ground.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03305915392883429192noreply@blogger.com